"He just stared at us"
Lucille Balthazar remembers a mysterious white man who visited her grandmother Ellen Hemings Roberts.
Theme: Racial Identity

Lucille Balthazar, only three generations removed from Madison Hemings of Monticello, heard of her connection to Jefferson from her father, William Giles Roberts, although he rarely spoke of it. He participated in the family mortuary business and owned a farm northeast of Los Angeles in the Apple Valley, where he had gardens and orchards. Mrs. Balthazar knew her grandmother, Ellen Hemings Roberts, well and loved to go to dinner at her house. Her grandmother “always set the table beautifully....each of us had our silver napkin rings with our name on it.”
23 Oct. 1995, Victorville, CA
Interviewee: Lucille Balthazar
Lucille Balthazar remembers a mysterious white man who visited her grandmother Ellen Hemings Roberts.
Theme: Racial Identity
Lucille Balthazar recalls her grandmother Ellen Hemings Roberts.
Theme: Jefferson Descent
Lucille Balthazar describes the food her grandmother Ellen Hemings Roberts prepared for her blond, blue-eyed brother Billy [William Glenn Roberts].
Themes: Farms, Food, and Gardens, Racial Identity
Lucille Balthazar tells of hearing of her descent from Jefferson and Sally Hemings from her father.
Lucille Balthazar talks about her grandfather Andrew Jackson Roberts.
Theme: Achievement
Lucille Balthazar gives her opinion of Thomas Jefferson.
Lucille Balthazar recalls her father, William Giles Roberts, and his farm in California’s Apple Valley.
Themes: Family, Farms, Food, and Gardens, Property