In this live virtual talk, Jim Ambuske and Jeanette Patrick discuss their widely acclaimed podcast Intertwined about the enslaved community at Mount Vernon.

Joined by Jenna Owens of Monticello's Getting Word African American Oral History Project, they examine how the American Revolution complicated George Washington’s own relationship with slavery and created opportunities for enslaved people to embrace the fullest implications of Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence through self-emancipation. They also discuss the possibilities for communicating complex stories about slavery at places like Monticello and Mount Vernon to wide audiences using the podcast format.